Dr. Chris Okafor is in a good mood now as his church, Mountain of Liberation and Miracle Ministry, aka Liberation City, marks 10 with lot of achievements so far. In this interview with ENCOMIUM Weekly, he talks about the church, the focus of the church and the state of the nation…
How has the journey been so far?
In every task, whatever task, whatever endeavor, there is one or more challenges, but God who has given us the mandate not to fail, when you see obstacle, you see it as an opportunity for taking you to the next level. Any man that wants to be great without obstacle is not really ready to go far. So, obstacle is part of life, challenges are part of life. Even the lion being the king of the jungle has some obstacles. It is the king of the jungle but some flies would still come around his ears, he would still have to wave them off. These are challenges and obstacles by which no great man, nobody that wants to go to the level of whatever God has called him that would not meet all these obstacles. But the most important thing is how you are able to turn the obstacles into testimony. This is nothing but the hand of God. And with determination, you will definitely get to where you are going.
Liberation Mountain will soon stage its 10 anniversary, what has been your challenges and success so far?
As you can see, we already have a lot of plans on the ground. The major mandate which God has given me is to add one billion souls to the kingdom of God, and that is what forms whatever agenda of what we are doing. Without God’s mandate, every other thing you are doing is out of it. The mandate is so much, that is why you see us travelling from one nation to the other, from one city to the other, to make sure we achieve the mandate of one billion souls. And I am proud to tell you that we have gone very far. Another thing going on to make sure we achieve this target God has given us, is that we now have our own television station, Liberation TV, and it is another way of reaching millions. We usually have our live telecast anytime we are having service and God is helping us to acquire more properties to accommodate people coming from different parts of the world. We are also trying to increase the capacity of the widows, we are presently reaching out now because we have over 3,000 widows we are catering for. We have also included orphans. We are trying to raise a microfinance bank, by the grace of God, as God gives us the enablement. The basis of doing this is not for self interest but to empower the widows, orphanages, less privileged, that is the only way you can get a crowd. Before you talk to a man, telling him to embrace Christ you must make sure the person is a little alright. You don’t go talk to people who are not sure where their first meal would come from.
What is so special about Liberation City 10th anniversary?
Normally, it is a celebration of grace and power. We want to celebrate what God has been doing in this commission and what has kept us going. People coming from different places all over the world, they are not coming because they want to dance, they are coming here because God is doing something here. This is a place where the captives are set free, people are given meaning to live again. During the retreat, there is going to be mighty liberation, people will be liberated, God will give people direction, sick people will be healed, people with all kinds of loads, God will take it off from them and will give them a cause to live again. It is a celebration of grace, freedom, celebration of God’s grace upon this great commission.
There are lot of things that are not in our character, but we allow people to see what we are doing. Like when we began Liberation TV. Within few months I can tell you authoritatively by the grace of God, some acres of land had been acquired, believing God by next year we will start up from the kindergarten to the secondary school and probably in the next 3-4 years, we should set up Liberation University. All registration is in progress right now.
Nigeria has been described as a failed state politically, what is your take on this?
We have said it before, I don’t think it is reasonable to keep on saying something from church perspective. Remember, the Bible says the government shall be upon his shoulders. We are to orchestrate the activities of the government from the spiritual point of view, so that we don’t keep doing one thing expecting a different result. We have said it again and again about the revelation that God says, 2 Chronicles 7:14 – “If my people which are called by my name shall humble themselves and pray and repent from their sins, from heaven I hear their prayers will I answer and I will heal their land. So what Nigeria needs right now is healing, the land needs healing. It will be stupid or foolish of a farmer to go and begin to till a barren land to sow seed on it when he knows that the land is barren. And the only time you can sow effectively in such land is only by what they call fire brigade approach. But as it is right now, what the country needs is prayer. Instead of praying, they are talking about national dialogue. That is not what the country needs, what the country needs is nothing but prayers.
You have had your fair share of negative stories, how do you feel about those reports?
In life, nobody writes about a mad man. The Bible says, “Though we walk in the flesh but we don’t operate by flesh”. If the devil I deal with can possess some pastors, so who is the journalist for the devil not to possess? Are all journalists Christians? All are not Christians. So if they are not writing about you it means something is wrong. Liberation city is a movement not just a church. The more you write about liberation city, you are only advertising us. Have you wondered why they are writing about the church is exploding in all ramification, does that not tell the man using his pen that he is advertising us?
You hardly sleep, how come you look fresh?
The Bible says, “Those that wait upon the lord shall renew their strength and they shall mount up wings like that of eagle” and says ‘unless the Lord build a city, those that build laboureth in vain , except the Lord watches over the city, the sentry(watchman) do so in vain. The then head of state, Abacha, had all the security but when the spirit of death came, his men were made incapable to stop it. So that shows it does not come from man but God. And when you do the right thing, the will of God, make sure you don’t oppress anybody. You are concerned about others, because whatever we do is no concern to ourselves, we think about other people. We think about that man who has nowhere to sleep, we think about that widow who is being oppressed, we think about the orphans. There is no way you carry all other people’s load, that God would not carry your own because you are already a tool in his hands. If satan can empower his own how much more God the creator of heaven and the earth? He will always virtually empower his people and the only way that he can do that is when our strength is renewed like that of the eagle. So when we wait upon him and do His work, there is no way we are not going to be renewed. Anytime you see the fish, it is always clean, why? Because the fish is always in constant touch with water and it stays in water. So as long as I have constant touch with the holy ghost, I would always look renewed and empowered, that is the anointing of the spirit.
– FEMI OYEWALE